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Brian Coughlin's avatar

Respect. Can’t win them all.

Most people just hope everyone forgets their bad calls.

Matteo's avatar

Hello,

I’d like to better understand your perspective.

The payments market continues to grow structurally. Even if PayPal doesn’t have a strong moat, it should at least grow in line with the market, or remain stable, given the overall industry tailwinds. At a P/E of 7, you’re effectively buying a low-growth or no-growth business at a very modest multiple.

Also, PayPal is more than just its core branded checkout product, which I think is often overlooked. While the company doesn’t provide a fully detailed breakdown, we can make reasonable estimates.

For example, the PSP segment (primarily Braintree) should generate roughly $14 billion in transaction revenue at a 1.8% take rate. With a transaction margin of 32%, that implies about $4.6 billion in transaction profit. What is that worth on a standalone basis? Even at a conservative multiple, that could justify $20+ billion in value. Notably, Bernstein estimated Braintree’s value at $15–20 billion four years ago (!).

Then there’s Venmo. It still has meaningful monetization potential, particularly through increased credit card penetration, where it could earn a 0.7%–1% take rate. How are you thinking about the value of that optionality? Bernstein estimated 10-15 bil. 1 year ago.

Finally, the branded business appears to be valued basically for free. Though competition and they're lagging competitors in term of tech by 18-24 months. True. If we assume a 2.5% take rate generating ~$14 billion in revenue and 70% TM margin we get roughly $10 billion in transaction margin, even under more conservative assumptions, say, margins compress and transaction profit falls to $5 billion, what would that be worth?

Have you incorporated these segment-level dynamics into your valuation? And where do you think this framework might be flawed?

I’m genuinely interested in understanding the risks or assumptions I may be underestimating.

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